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Author Topic: Who uses Fountain Pens?  (Read 1225 times)
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« on: January 05, 2018, 06:11:27 PM »

Check out my Youtube Channel and subscribe and like to see reviews and writing samples of fountain pens. I will update this thread every time I have a new video. Lets all talk about our favorite fountain pens and anything fountain pen related.

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Jinhao 599


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« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2018, 08:09:00 PM »

I have a pilot metro and a lamy safari.  I have had them for a while but don’t use them much.  I just bought a notebook to try to write in as a journal. 


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« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2018, 12:01:27 PM »

With those pens you can replace the ink right? Do they last longer than cheap pens?
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« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2018, 08:34:55 PM »

^^ Yeah, morgothaod. That's part of the fun - there's a ton of different ink brands and colors to try.

I've been using fountain pens since the 4th grade. I started with a no-name fountain pen I found at the base exchange on the military base where my folks were stationed - it took standard cartridges and I realized pretty quickly that I could reuse the cartridges and fill them with ink drawn from a bottle with a syringe. Now that I'm older I tend to use 1930s Sheaffer Balances and I carry a Lamy 2000 with me everywhere.

Nice reviews Davion!
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« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2018, 09:46:31 AM »

With those pens you can replace the ink right? Do they last longer than cheap pens?
  Depending on which fountain pens you buy and how good you take care of them. They can last you a lifetime. Yes there are many different inks you can use in them.
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« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2018, 12:08:35 AM »

Right now, sitting in front of me on my desk is:

1. Pilot 823
2. Diplomat Classic
3. Silver Parker 75
4. Pilot Varsity - disposable.
5. Scheaffer PFM (Pen for Men).

Each has a different color ink. I use them every day.

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« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2018, 03:07:57 PM »

Right now, sitting in front of me on my desk is:

1. Pilot 823
2. Diplomat Classic
3. Silver Parker 75
4. Pilot Varsity - disposable.
5. Scheaffer PFM (Pen for Men).

Each has a different color ink. I use them every day.





Whats the Pilot 823 like?
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« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2018, 01:56:26 PM »



Whats the Pilot 823 like?

Fabulous.

The Pilot 823 is one of my favorite modern pens. It is a lot like the MB Meisterstuck 146. Super solid, feels great in the hand. The nib is smooth as butter; not scratchy like lots of modern pens. These 24K Pilot nibs are really nice and the ink flows perfectly.

I have two that I use almost daily.
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« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2018, 09:20:10 PM »

One thing worth noting about the Pilot 823 and other Japanese pens (like Sailor) is that the nibs are utterly smooth. Some people love this, and some people realize once they try a Japanese pen that they prefer a bit of feedback.
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« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2018, 02:20:14 PM »

... feedback.

I have noticed that my Sailor, while laying down absolutely wonderful line, is a bit scratchy. My Pelican is also the same. I had no idea it had a term for it.

It was obvious, that this feedback was intentional since any efforts to make a Sailor nib "smooth" seems doomed to failure. No matter what, it puts down a great line, but makes some noise. My only conclusion was that this feedback was desirable to Japanese writers. Does the sound help in translating emotion to the characters somehow?

I like my pens to write quietly. Is that not the case for some?
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« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2018, 04:38:31 PM »

These 24K Pilot nibs are really nice and the ink flows perfectly....


24kt? I see it hard, if it were in pure gold it would be so soft to bend at the first support ...
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« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2018, 07:59:17 PM »

If a nib is scratchy and loud it can be a sign that either the tines are out of alignment or that the iridium tip was ground for feedback. If it's the tines, then it will also sometimes catch on the paper - you'd notice it. The only Sailor I've ever written with that was a bit scratchy was an extra fine nib - I think that just comes with the extra fine territory. But that doesn't mean they aren't moderately scratchy Sailor nibs in other sizes out there, of course.

The best way to get a sense of intentional feedback is to test something like a Pilot 823 against an Aurora 88 - the iridium on the Auroras are ground to have a bit of feedback. They aren't noisy, but you can feel the difference immediately if you write with those two pens back to back. I actually like both very much. I find that I have better control with the 88 - I also write slower with the 88, which is probably part of why I have better handwriting with it. But in terms of ease of writing, the Pilot 823 is hard to beat. Actually, I'm not sure I've written with anything smoother.

Re: Pelican - great pens, but they have some QC issues. Many of them need minor adjusting when they leave the factory, and it's usually either that the tines aren't perfectly aligned or the feed needs to be adjusted for better ink flow. This actually used to be normal back in the 1930s to 1970s - there were lots of pens shops and people bought them from a store that had a person who made those kinds of adjustments for you as part of the purchase. With the decline of pen stores, most companies have taken to doing this at the factory.

Re: the 24k gold - nibs have iridium tips, which is ultra hard. In terms of flexibility, they control that with the thickness of the tines, rather than gold content. Flex nibs, like those used for calligraphy, are made much thinner than standard nibs.
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« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2018, 11:24:22 PM »

24kt? I see it hard, if it were in pure gold it would be so soft to bend at the first support ...

24kt is the standard. I hear what you are saying, but if it were pure gold, it would be uncomfortably heavy at the tip of the pen and have durability issues over time.

As I understand, the gold is more of a show thing. It does have some vibration-cancelling properties, but mostly it is about how nice it looks. Lamy, has been making some super-nice stainless-steel nibs for a while. Like most nibs, they are, iridium tipped. But they flex just fine and write the perfectly.

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« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2018, 11:41:45 PM »

in terms of ease of writing, the Pilot 823 is hard to beat. Actually, I'm not sure I've written with anything smoother.

How would you compare the Scheaffer Pen For Men with the Pilot? Or an old Scheaffer Admiral with a 24kt nib? A Parker 51?

Or, the Mont Blanc 146 or 149? ...

I am curious because few people know the 823. I am eager to hear your opinions on any pens you wish to compare. I have been adjusting nibs and restoring old pens for a few years now; and the Pilot 823 is one of the few modern "old-school" (ie; can compare to old pens favorably) pens I know of. I would love to hear your thoughts.

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« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2018, 08:35:18 AM »

Wow, a whole nother world! I've always thought they were cool. Might have to try one again…
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