This is one helluva tip. I just skipped over this trick when I first got started. Well, kinda, I tried it for a couple weeks and couldn’t get it, moved on, skru it. Lately Ive decided that since I’m somewhat of a decent thrower now I would go back and get revenge on a couple beginner tricks that gave me hail. I have got my revenge on all of em so far except for this one, until I dug this up. I really think this could help a lot of people so I have decided to resurrect this treasure chest of knowledge thanks to yossarian. Just hop it over your throw hand instead of trying to swing it. Simple stupid simple.