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Author Topic: Yoyo Damage Terminology (with pictures!)  (Read 39673 times)
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« on: April 27, 2013, 02:24:02 PM »

There has always been confusion on what constitutes a ding, or a scuff, or a 'pinprick'. Well I threw together this little guide to help alleviate some of that confusion.

Let me preface this by saying that damage has different levels of severity, so they won't necessarily always adhere to these definitions.

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First off, the common Ding.


The ding is one of the most prevalent forms of damage you'll encounter. They occur when your yoyo strikes another hard object (whether or not your yoyo is spinning).




Since dings remove a bit of material, they have depth and thus are 'feelable'.


Next, Pinpricks.

Pinpricks are essentially very small dings. The type of damage you'd expect if you were to poke something with a needle. You typically can't feel them very well and they often occur in clusters or groups.





Mint, Mint with box (MWB), & Mint in box (MIB).


'Mint' is an umbrella term that encompasses the above three terms. When a yoyo has literally NO damage, cosmetic or otherwise, it is considered mint. Yoyos CAN be played yet still be called mint.


Mint with box is a yoyo that is mint and you have the original box it came in.


Mint in box is probably the term that has had the most blurred definition. Some consider having a mint yoyo (whether or not it has been removed from the box or played) and the box to be 'mint in box'. That is just not the case. Mint in box refers to a yoyo that has not been removed from the manufacturer's packaging, EVER. Mint in box is also synonymous with 'mint in package' in the circumstance that the yoyo doesn't come in a box (e.g. FHZs, Echos, etc.)



Scratch.

A scratch is [typically] a light mark across the surface of the yoyo. Scratches may or may not break the ano.




Scuffs.

Scuffs are typically light damage. They may or may not have broken the anodization, revealing the bare metal underneath. They are also not typically feelable. Scuffs may also be referred to as '3A damage' as when playing 3A, the yoyos often clang together, producing scuffs (and a sulfur-like odor).




Flatspots.

Flatspots are exactly what the name entails: damage that has disrupted the roundness of a yoyo with a small plateau. Typically, flatspots don't break ano.





Beat.


Yoyos are considered 'beat' when they have a significant amount of damage. This may or may not be an indicator of any vibe that may have been introduced because of the damage. Be sure to ask the seller about vibe when considering purchasing a beat yoyo (if they have not already done so).




Anodization flaws

Though technically not damage, ano flaws affect the cosmetics of your yoyo. Ano flaws have several different forms. Usually you'll find that an ano flaw is a small part of the color that has been faded. Though occasionally an ano flaw will come in the form of a different color than planned, or has an unattractive 'washed out' appearance. These defects occur in the manufacturing process. Anodizing metal isn't a science, it's an art, and art is never perfect Grin



Be sure to know your terminology before engaging in BST activity.
Buyers: Be sure to know exactly what you're buying/trading for.
Sellers: Accurately describe your items. The other party is going to figure it out one way or another.


If there's anything you'd like to add, please PM me or comment here.


Credit to Tuxedodave for the idea.
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« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2013, 02:30:47 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2013, 02:31:04 PM »

Great post! I need to give a Thank you. Although this isn't damage, ano flaws may also be useful for others ro see.
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« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2013, 02:32:57 PM »

Although this isn't damage, ano flaws may also be useful for others ro see.
Good idea! I'll add that.
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« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2013, 02:34:46 PM »

Thanks, this is really helpful. One question I have is about two phrases I see when I look at the BST, "shipped" and "OBO." What do these mean?
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« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2013, 02:41:18 PM »

Thanks, this is really helpful. One question I have is about two phrases I see when I look at the BST, "shipped" and "OBO." What do these mean?
'Shipped' usually refers to price. When someone says "$55 shipped", that means that the shipping cost is included in the price so all you have to pay is the $55. However, it could also mean that they have shipped the yoyo to the buyer.
'OBO' means 'or best offer'. If you feel the price is too high, the seller encourages you to make a counter offer.
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« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2013, 02:46:01 PM »

Thanks, this is really helpful. One question I have is about two phrases I see when I look at the BST, "shipped" and "OBO." What do these mean?

Shipped means the shipping of the yoyo is included in the price listed. OBO means "or best offer." I.e. "60 shipped OBO" means shipping is included in the 60 dollars. But if you don't have 60 dollars or feel the price is high, you could offer 55, staying realistic in your offer and not lowballing by offering 10 dollars.
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« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2013, 02:47:08 PM »

*what Links said
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« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2013, 02:52:21 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2013, 03:15:49 PM »

Sticky now please.
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« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2013, 03:33:20 PM »

Yay! Thanks a million!

Another question! What about 5a marks and wedding ring marks? Would they be considered pin pricks?
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« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2013, 03:37:39 PM »

Wouldn't this be more helpful as a sticky in the BST section?
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« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2013, 03:40:59 PM »

Wouldn't this be more helpful as a sticky in the BST section?

Yes it would. But I didn't want to start a discussion thread in a bst section. Was hoping maybe when this list gets up maybe a mod can move it over there.
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« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2013, 04:05:21 PM »

Yay! Thanks a million!

Another question! What about 5a marks and wedding ring marks? Would they be considered pin pricks?
Those usually dont break ano, so I would classify that under scuffs
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« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2013, 06:12:54 PM »

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