Onedrop 19mm slim pad too thin?


So at the risk of ruining the jokerpads in my helium I swapped one of them for a OD pad and it looks like this. It it noticeably less grippy on a bind but with no significant reduction of snag during play.

On a yoyo whose response groove is already recessed with respect to the bearing, such as this one with this little wall enclosing the bearing (and originally had YYF pads), it looks like this


and when both sides become like this, they slip like worn out pads.

Onedrops own yoyos look like this:

Now has anyone seen 0.9mm pads from other brands like IR or watever? Wut do those look like?

All depends on how deep they cut their groove. Never measured a yoyojoker.

All my 19mm yoyos have the same groove depth except the 1st run phenomizm. If you look at the 2 pictures above, the depths of recession from the outer edge are the same for both yoyos, but definitely more than in a onedrop yoyo.

I’m talking about the depth of the groove. Did you measure them? It looks like the depth of the groove on those yoyos are deeper than the samples of yoyos we measured when we designed this pad. We can’t control that. You are correct if the groove is deeper than what we measured, then yes the pad will be more recessed.

That’s the problem with the 19mm “standard” is that there is no standard. It’s not like there is a standards board I can go ask for the measurements. It is not even agreed who came up with it in the first place and so it’s not surprising that the implementations differ.

Wut yoyos did u measure? (And y did you measure the yoyos when measuring the stock pads is more accurate with the layers and perhaps more faithful to the original)

All my yoyos, YYF, YYJ(2011-present), YYR, C3, Werrd and various small brands, can fit all my pads, YYF, YYJ(2011+), IR, Joker, Blueprint and various nonbranded made in China bulk pads (srsly), except urs. The 1st run phenomizm kindo does tho, so maybe that s the exact one u measured?..

There sure is a standard, just urs might be a bit off or simply outdated like with the old izm. YYR, for example, even says on their site that their yoyos are ‘use with 1.1mm pads recommended, may also work with 0.9mm’. If u r real, just give us both thin and thick options like IR does, as ur pads themselves (when perfectly fitted in your own yoyos) are indeed of top quality and one of the highest cost/performance in the market. If I didnt care about ur products i d have stopped derping long ago.
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I think we measured YYFs and Duncans. And we got specs from the fine people at YYE. Ours is not outdated because we only just made it recently because many were requesting it. Nice to have a different option right?

For us, they play perfectly in the YYFs and the Duncans that we measured and tested them with.

Thats even weirder since some Duncans is known to have a deeper groove than YYFs.
Just tried your pads on both sides of my yyf cyborg. They r ok binding from high spin just after a throw, but feels quite a bit off compared to flush pads during a low speed bind such as a horizontal laceration bind.
Also I needed to stretch them very hard to fit them in this YYF cyborg. Never did this for any other pad either.

Like I said, we can’t control what size other companies cut their yoyo features.

Yes if they all are the same.
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I think that’s the crux of the issue and the confusion here. People see that nomenclature and assume there is one, then get upset when it’s not “standard”.
(Not casting any judgment here)

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Jesus, man. They are NOT all the same. That’s the whole point. If you don’t want thin pads, get thicker ones. They are like, a dollar.

Exactly. The companies that use this size didn’t all get together and agree on the numbers. We did our best with the info we had.

Yeah, no kidding… You should be actually contacting Duncan and you and asking them why they don’t cut the response recess all the exact same… This isn’t OD fault. THEIR pads fit perfect in THEIR yoyos. If you choose to use them in other brand throws, that’s your decision. If you buy them and don’t like them, then don’t use them.

Man, you just keep going back and forth with da5id and not even paying any attention to what he’s trying to explain to you. Take it easy. :slight_smile:

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That’s the whole point. I dont want to spend $2 each on irpads or jokerpads when I should be able to get (thick) OD pads that could have played just as well for $1.[/s]

Find me a yoyo marked as ‘19mm slim pad’ and for which YYF pads will be too thick (or too thin).

The whole point is just that Onedrop is the only one that does not fit in the standard.
Every other company that claims what they made is ‘19mm slim pad’ all follows the standard, or even better, offer choices (still based on standard).
Just like the size C bearing, this ‘standard’ may not have been formally written down, but it is a convention naturally evolved in the trade with a goal in itself to bring different manufacturers together under it. The whole thing about this ‘19mm slim pad’ is to create such a standard. There are numerous companies that make pads but not yoyos, IR being one of them yet their products fit all 3rd party yoyos perfectly. Nobody says ‘You think our size C bearing is 1mm smaller in outer diameter? but it plays well with me and blahbhalfbshlkjehdk’
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If Irpads can do this, then everyone can. Its not that hard.
If Onedrop do not want (the only valid reason that they dont) to make them, then add an official notification on their product about how ‘different’ it is.

I will be convinced if you show me a yoyo made after 2011, marked as ‘‘19mm slim pad’’, and has Onedrop pads sitting flush in one side and another pad also sitting flush in the other side.

I will investigate making a thicker version.

You have my sincere gratitude a
nd wish you an easy yet epic success on this one.
I will continue to support your products.
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Thanks for the feedback :slight_smile: I’ll post here when I get some answers on making a thicker version.

There is no standard pad, period.

And for that matter, the yoyo world did not determine the standard size of the “C” bearing. That is a bearing industry feat that someone making yoyos just decided to use. It too is not a “standard”.

This is why I use flowable silicone.

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Entire problem, solved.