BillyBobs Civility: A High Speed YoYo Review

Yep. It’s pretty bad . I was using Sarcasm on my post

I will say, at least they give a recommendation besides the Civility for a top-of-the-line yoyo. Though their recommendation is the Yomega Prodigy, which I know very little about. shrugs

It’s a yoyo designed by daniel dietz who was sponsored by onedrop before getting hired by yomega and is manufactured by onedrop so the name is really the only thing yomega about it.

Heh, good to know. How is it? Have you thrown one?

It is one of my favorite throws at the moment

It’s got a mix of heft and float which makes it play veeeery well

The Civility is obviously the best yoyo in the world and completely necessary to get anywhere in yoyoing.

SOLD!

I jumped on board the kickstarter largely because I wanted to support the company since I did learn a lot of the basics from their tutorials. Is the marketing spiel more than slightly misleading? Yes. Can you learn every trick on it? Yes, but you could do likewise on any other yoyo as well. Is it a good yoyo for learning on? The relative slowness, stability and long spin seem to be conducive towards learning. Would I pay $90 for it? Not when companies like C3 and YYF are churning out metals for around half the price.

Yuki

I have a Civility and while it has quite a bit of vibe to it I would agree with the review that began this thread. At $90 it’s not bad considering that CLYW and TP and Duncan’s high end yoyo’s all cost more than $100. While there are other yoyos that are cheaper I still like the way the civility throws.

Wait, on the forum it says billybob’s civility, but the review on high speed says its from yotricks.

Is yotricks and Billybob’s the same yoyo website?

Quoted for humour. :slight_smile:

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The Moderators change this particular stores name to Billybobs
(Because you can’t link to outside stores and because, well they can!)

So yes, it’s the same website

For the vibe on the Civility, I bet it can be tuned the same way FHZs are tuned. Any yoyo with this axle set up will have vibe unless tuned. I’ve had Projects that have needed to be tuned, the reason they were smooth out of the box is because One Drop most likely tuned them before shipping them out.

The forum software actually automatically changes the names of outside vendors. If the mods see that one has squeaked through by “munging” the URL, that’s when they’ll step in; otherwise, automation for the win!

so whenever people would mention BillyBobs bait and tackle as a yoyostore…its not a real yoyo store but the mods covering up the real name?

::slight_smile: Mods do what? ::slight_smile:

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Mods are pure sweetness and fart rainbows… we love you guys. 8)

Yeah, I have owned my fair share of Projects and Project 2s. I could not get it to smooth out even doing the quarter turn of the nut trick. This one just has a little vibe, it happens and does not bother me personally. As I said in the review, the only reason I brought it up is because this is a yoyo designed to be THE yoyo you learn on. If that is the case, marketing rhetoric or not, it needs to be dead smooth so that the students new to the sport don’t think the vibe is due to something they are doing wrong. Unless they are actually doing something wrong. It is kind of like if I taught my students how to measure using a ruler and then give them a defective ruler that counts centimeters as 1, 2, 3, 5.

I disagree. New yoyoers probably won’t even notice the vibe unless they, in fact, throw a vibey throw.
I used to think my Metal Zero was smooth(when I was first starting). Also, I don’t think beginners should be pampered with extremely smooth yoyos that aren’t necessary to start yoyoing. Give a new yoyoer an vibey throw, and when he learns tricks on it, he won’t ever need a smooth yoyo. Obviously terrible vibe is bad, but when you are first starting, it doesn’t really matter that much.

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Normally I would agree with you, I started learning 1A on a YYF Velocity and a YYJ Lyn Fury. Neither of those are known to be dead smooth. My problem is that the Civility is marketing stated this:

If they are going to say things like:

“wondering if your yo-yo is good enough”
“we know the Civility will give any player the tools they need for success”
“anyone who purchases this yoyo will know for certain that their yoyo is capable of doing the tricks they wish to learn”

Then the yo-yo needs to be pretty darn perfect. I am not saying all yo-yos need to be vibe free… but this one was marketed with extreme rhetoric and in my opinion oversold the capabilities of an otherwise middle of the road yo-yo. While some will say they had to exaggerate in order to meet their goal, I disagree. You can sell your product while still being honest and not overselling the capabilities. They came off sounding like the equivalent of yo-yo used car salesmen.

Thank you for your review. This is one of the yoyos I’m looking at for my next purchase. I appreciate the input.