magic-yo

[YOYOJAMizm]

You can say magic yos designs are similar but they are not at all the exact design and only like 2 of their yoyos have similar designs

Like a $25 yoyo is going to completely steal yyr or clyw buisness

[YoyoGeezer]

You can say magic yos designs are similar but they are not at all the exact design and only like 2 of their yoyos have similar designs

Like a $25 yoyo is going to completely steal yyr or clyw buisness

The fact that their designs are all different points to the fact that they are stealing the inspiration from others. They do not have to copy the shapes exactly; that is not the point. When I show you a picture of a Yoyorecreation - it is pretty obvious who the manufacturer is. When I show you a picture of a Turning point, yoyoskeel, yoyojoker, CLYW  - you know instantly who the maker is. This speaks to both the need to brand as well as bring something unique and new to the marketplace to garner sales. This process of INNOVATION requires many prototypes and wasted time and effort on failed designs to eventually arrive at a real product. This is expensive and explains why yoyo sell for more than the cost of production.

Clearly, Magic yoyo is not going to steal away the business of a CLYW. But every time you buy one, you deprive a real designer of a sale. Yes YOU saved money. But in the long-run this is what we call an economic dis-incentive. You are making a short-term choice at the expense of your long-term economic interests. Over time, Magic Yoyo will steal enough of these "soft" sales so that young, innovative companies will increasingly see less of a margin for them to attempt new ideas and designs. The result will be less new companies, less choice for the consumer and less innovation in the marketplace.

Yes, you saved money, but the new CLYW is never founded, because consumers are devoting their money to of rip-offs instead of innovations.

Listen to the guy who said that as soon as you get a CLYW you will forget all about the Magic Yo. The old adage is still true: You get what you pay for.

Save your $ and get the real deal.

[WildCat23]

You can say magic yos designs are similar but they are not at all the exact design and only like 2 of their yoyos have similar designs

Like a $25 yoyo is going to completely steal yyr or clyw buisness

The fact that their designs are all different points to the fact that they are stealing the inspiration from others. They do not have to copy the shapes exactly; that is not the point. When I show you a picture of a Yoyorecreation - it is pretty obvious who the manufacturer is. When I show you a picture of a Turning point, yoyoskeel, yoyojoker, CLYW  - you know instantly who the maker is. This speaks to both the need to brand as well as bring something unique and new to the marketplace to garner sales. This process of INNOVATION requires many prototypes and wasted time and effort on failed designs to eventually arrive at a real product. This is expensive and explains why yoyo sell for more than the cost of production.

Clearly, Magic yoyo is not going to steal away the business of a CLYW. But every time you buy one, you deprive a real designer of a sale. Yes YOU saved money. But in the long-run this is what we call an economic dis-incentive. You are making a short-term choice at the expense of your long-term economic interests. Over time, Magic Yoyo will steal enough of these "soft" sales so that young, innovative companies will increasingly see less of a margin for them to attempt new ideas and designs. The result will be less new companies, less choice for the consumer and less innovation in the marketplace.

Yes, you saved money, but the new CLYW is never founded, because consumers are devoting their money to of rip-offs instead of innovations.

Listen to the guy who said that as soon as you get a CLYW you will forget all about the Magic Yo. The old adage is still true: You get what you pay for.

Save your $ and get the real deal.

Have you ever actually tried a magic yoyo?  If I showed you  this picture,

what company does it remind you of?  How about this one?

What manufacturer does that make you think of?

[YoyoGeezer]

^^

You are kidding... right?

YoyoSkeel - anything, YYJ Phenom (they rounded the edges - clever), YYF Genesis.

Who else puts a metal ring in the walls of the yoyo? YoyoJam is the only one I know of... Oh yeah - there is Magic Yo. Wonder where they got the idea from... I bet it was exhaustive design and testing.

[YOYOJAMizm]

just because the 2nd has a metal rings on it doesnt mean its a phenom copy

and the 3rd is not even close to a genesis the rim then curve to the response and the size is all different

their are plenty of other brands doing the same thing except no one is complaining about it

[supbreh1234]

ive played the n9 once, and it plays smooth dont get me wrong, but im not sure they have licenses to sell a yoyo with hubstacks AND a konkave bearing

[Noah5223]

I have a T9 Dark Angel and its pretty good. The only thing i dont know how to do is take off the Z-Stacks. Can anyone help me?

[mx.yoyo]

Is that even a weight ring or is it just a raw strip that's not anodized to stand out?

[theTopo]

The fact that their designs are all different points to the fact that they are stealing the inspiration from others.

A manufacturer having variety in designs means they must be stealing???

They do not have to copy the shapes exactly; that is not the point. When I show you a picture of a Yoyorecreation - it is pretty obvious who the manufacturer is. When I show you a picture of a Turning point, yoyoskeel, yoyojoker, CLYW  - you know instantly who the maker is.

I recall a YYR sponsored player mentioning to me that a lot of YoYoJoker designs share a really similar profile to YYR. I can definitely see where he's coming from. I've seen people comment that the upcoming CLYW Glacier Express doesn't look like a CLYW. Meanwhile I felt the OD Burnside felt more like a YYF than a OD, and the General-Yo Entheos profile looks totally like a DV888 to my simple eyes. I guess all these manufacturers are occasionally "stealing the inspiration" from others. Although I'd love you to explain what the difference between "being inspired by" and "stealing the inspiration from" others is.

Is that even a weight ring or is it just a raw strip that's not anodized to stand out?

From what I've read elsewhere it's just a raw strip not a weight ring as YoyoGeezer mistakenly implied.

Seriously, there're a bunch of Chinese manufacturers that are still producing blatant copies of original designs that deserve to be criticised. Magic YoYo is a company that is actually doing the right thing and deserves all the success they get. Also the new N10 appears to have a completely original finish which demonstrates they are becoming more creative now that they're established.

dont get me wrong, but im not sure they have licenses to sell a yoyo with hubstacks AND a konkave bearing

As far as I'm aware the konkave and hubstack patents only cover the USA (someone please correct me if these are patented in other jurisdictions). I know at least one retailer in the States sells some Magic YoYo with a flat bearing to abide by the patent.

Personally I own two Magic YoYos. I think they're great value for money but have to disagree with one of the previous posters about the bearings. I found the stock bearings to be low-quality non-stainless steel like most budget Chinese manufacturers.

[Tjt564]

^^^^^ thank you

[damainzar15]

The glacier express might not look like most clyws but that doesnt mean theyre stealing anything. The GE looks nothing like any yoyo ive ever seen. Im not hating on magic yo. My first 5 yoyos were magic yo and I still play my n9 from time to time. They make decent quality yoyos for great prices. You cant beat that. Especially for beginners. But when I open my case and see an avalanche, a chief, a gnarwhal, a code 2, a genesis, a superstar, a skyline, and others, the magic yos are not even noticed. Theyre great starters. Some more than others. But they will never out perform the high end companies like OD, YYR, CLYW, SPYY, or even YYF OR YYJ. My advice for new players, get one. They will serve you well while learning.
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[mx.yoyo]

I will say this is debatable. It all comes down to preference. I'm sure there are a few out there who feel like a certain Magic Yoyo is the best you they will ever play even though they have "high end" yoyos. It all comes down to preference. But I think say quality wise they might fall in with the "lower end" YYFs like say the JK, DV888, Yuuksta, Superwide, 2.0.

[SuperSnSProductions]

Seems some people are afraid to admit that something $20 can be better then something that has more rep and work thrown into it. Honestly who cares? If I had a pair of jordans and some cheap pair of shoes from a bargain outlet does that mean I'll walk better in jordans? Just because things have a higher price tag that in no way makes it any better.

[fjh123]

Aluminum is cheap. U-groove bearings are cheap setting up a CNC self loading lathe is easy.

[Studio42]

I don't care what it costs, as long as it's fun.

The Magic Yoyos sell for cheap. They seem to be well made and play well and I've had ZERO issues with the bearings. I like them.

If people knew the mark-up on yoyos, many would soil their pants. Some might just soil them anyways, they just do that on their own. I'm not here to judge.