Seems some people are afraid to admit that something $20 can be better then something that has more rep and work thrown into it. Honestly who cares? If I had a pair of jordans and some cheap pair of shoes from a bargain outlet does that mean I'll walk better in jordans? Just because things have a higher price tag that in no way makes it any better.
no but I bet those jordans are more comfortable, perform better on the court, and will last a heck of a lot longer. Im sorry but there is no way that these magic yos are better than the clyws, spyys, yyr, and so on. Theyre great for the price. And play well.
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Well said. I'm sure that without exception then higher price ALWAYS equates to "better quality".
I'll push this in the direction of stuff I know: Pro audio.
It's odd how when I've done high end sound installations with people buying this vastly overpriced "audiophile" crap, the amount of time and effort and TECHNOLOGY(and hence additional costs) to properly tune the system to the room is astronomical. But as they say, a fool and his money are soon parted. I have to rent a $15K measurement device coupled to a $2800 measurement mic CALIBRATED to each other to "sniff" the room, then use very precise 31-band graphic EQ's as well as some parametric EQ's and sometimes some hybrid EQ's just to get reasonable.
Yeah, they pay $100K+ and in the end, it still sounds like a$$. Of course, most of them fail to properly TREAT their environments too, so we're also having to deal with room reflections, which adds all sorts of other issues.
Now, let's look at studio monitors. I have a paid of studio monitors I paid I think under $280 for the pair of active speakers. They are the KRK Rockit 5 G2's. I love these, they sound amazing. I also added the 10" subwoofer, which that cost me more than the two speakers. Stepping up to a pair I paid over $600 for, KRK 6000's. Hands down these are my favorite nearfields EVER, especially coupled with the Rickbacker PA300 amplifier and the heavy gauge Monster Cable with the tips I put on them.(yes, it sounds different soldered via crimped, the soldering put a slight load on the cable and helped tighten up the highs, which was why I went that way). The amp I got used for $150, popped in a case I paid around $80 for and the cables I forget what those ran me, it's been a while.
Ideally, I'd like a pair of Meyer HD-1's, which cost I think over $1600 each, which in a 2-way design that goes down to 28 Hz, well, that's amazing, as well as with the output they do.
Stepping back down the price range, I've had amazing results with the Mackie monitors and wouldn't mind owning their latest 8" active offering, the HR824mk2, which at nearly $600 EACH, are loud enough and work suitably enough for use on the doghouse at my FOH position, letting me avoid headphones if I wanted to. They also sound great.
Studio speakers can cost from very low prices($89 or less for stuff I can use and trust) to thousands of dollars. But, without correcting for the environment at the very least, how can you be sure you're getting a translatable mix? You can't.
Let's look at headphones:
My Ultrasone Pro650's cost me over $260. Yes, HEADPHONES.
My AKG 240M's cost me $110 each.
My AKG 44's cost me, well, I got them free with a microphone.
The 240's sound the best(preference) and are the most accurate according to measurements. The 650's are closed back and are accurate, but work better for me for live sound due to the isolation. THe 240's semi-open back design makes them useless when doing concerts.
The 44's just plain suck in my opinion. I leave those by the in-ear rack for quick monitoring.
Let's go to mics. In an impartial shootout of handheld mics intended for vocal use, a guy went through many mics, ranging from $50 to $650. What worked best? AN $89 mic was the best fit for his vocal. The point here? Matching the proper transducer to the source.
Let's address shoes:
I tried a pair of Jordans. My impression: I absolutely without a doubt hated these shoes. No way I'm ever going to consider them again. That's just my opinion of them. I'm fine with the Asics I got on sale at Big5 for $35 or the pair I got on sale when Mervyns went under a few years ago. They fit better for me. Last longer? Who knows, those Jordans were SO incompatible with me they never even passed the "walk test" in the store. And let me tell you, I've met Michael Jordan, but that doesn't have anything to do with anything else.
Now, let's get back to yoyos:
Determining what is "great" SHOULD NOT be based on price. Determination of "good, better and best" should be something only the individual player should be able to rule on. I won't argue that SPYY and CLYW and One Drop make great stuff. I don't have any YYR, I won't comment on them to be fair.
In the right hands, darn near any yoyo can perform amazing. That includes inexpensive stuff like a PSG, Asteroid, Protostar, Northstar(used to win Worlds in 2010!). Price is something necessary to facilitate retail trade. Nothing more. Many factors go into determining what that price should be, which INCLUDES a mark-up from the maker(so they make money) to the mark-up the seller(such a YYE does) so they ALSO make money. The only thing that can determine BETTER or BEST is the player using the yoyo. If they are kicking butt and taking names with a sub-$30 metal, then that's just fine with me!
The Magic YoYos are apparently this sleeper of a brand YYE might want to consider jumping on since so many of us have already discovered them and are buying them. They perform 3-5 times what they cost. These perform not only "great" for the price, but "amazing" for their price, or "obscenely good" for "stupid cheap". I for one am taking advantage of these sellers before they realize what they are doing. I'm sure they are losing their profit over the shipping. I mean, $16 for a good throw with shipping from China and arriving in 6-9 days on average for me?
Yes, I like my CLYW's. Yes, I like my One Drops. Yes, I like my Spyy Solaris, but my Ronin not so much. And I think my Magic T5 plays up in the $80 range if not higher. It's actually been a go-to yoyo for me recently, where-as I'd been playing my Chief quite a bit until the T5 hit my mailbox.