As much as I wish I could throw like a competition level yoyoer, I have to say, what actually amazes me most are the "alternative" styles.
Perhaps I'm sticking my neck out a bit too far, but it seems like most things in the main styles have been done. Sure, there are always new takes on the old tricks, and you can always go faster, or get a little more complex - but truthfully, the sub-styles are where all the really kool kats hang out, and I wish I was one of them.
Zammy, you are a true inspiration in a mostly boring world and I wish I had more time to study your material.
I've been trying my hand at Hydra, and am amazed at what can be done, despite my weak creativity.
I'm really surprised this thread is actually being read and or alive. Before I posted it, I thought people were just going to tell me I was whining and to keep my mouth shut. I've had this happened in the past when I made such post on web-forums like yoyoing.com by sponsored players.
That is great to hear you like the alternative styles. Makes me smile quite a bit because there is very few times any of them are even mentioned. They receive no attention or dedicated players due to no database, no exchange of thought.. There is infact still innovation with the main five though, I still believe that.
I am always trying out new style.
There are so many alternate styles that many players dont even think of trying.
I feel that these styles are more fun to do, hopefully more can try it.
I think of magnetic 3A style from Zach in Chico, that is a very interesting style to see.
The Magnet styles, if Duncan can get the counterweights and stacks made correctly- is going to definitely bring 3a and 5a to a new dimension of play. Good to hear you find them fun.
You are right, learning new styles is great.
But I don't have the experience you do. I don't know how to do these kind of tricks/ styles. There are pretty much no tutorials for tricks outside of the main divisions. Thats why I love your Moebius 101. Your the only person that I know of that has created multiple tutorials for something outside of the main divisions.
There are 1A tuts being posted every day. Which makes 1A the easiest to get exposure to.
Thank you for saying that, and yes unfortunately 1a gets the most exposure since that is obviously the main style that everyone will play. Many of these alternative styles have disappeared due to the age difference. Many of them were sprouting up after 2000 through 2003 and then kinda just..disappeared. Thanks for liking the Moeb 101 tutorials, I need to get back to work on them.
However, they are mentioned up over at Yoyo-wiki for what each one is. That is at least a go-point.
Speaking of hydra could you give me an overview of how to get started? I don't need a book but just the basics like string length and how to throw. I've been using string that is about as long as my chin to the floor and a code1 and macrocosm. Will this set up work untill I get a pair of the same yoyo? Also what division would hydra fall into for competition? Would out be 5a because the second yoyo is like a counterweight or 3a because there is 2 yoyos. Or would it only be allowed in ap?
From what I understand for Hydra, it is two yoyos that appear as if to share one string. But that is not the case. You have to cut two strings and tie them together. You can also melt the poly so it bonds. String length doesn't really matter, its your choice what you want it to be. How to throw:
From what I remember, you hold the first yoyo with your pinky in the gap and ring holding it. and the second yoyo with your middle, index and thumb and hold it like you will be throwing 5a style. Throw it and let it spin. You can have the choice to throw the other throw with your lefty or righty in whichever spin direction you want. Just make sure to hold the string up from the first yoyo you throw down so you do not hit it with the second one.What to use:
You can throw whatever yoyos you want. It doesn't really matter exactly what you use. Although having equal throws will be more comfort in your hand and understanding of when you play.What division would Hydra fall under:
This is one of those extremely tough decisions because quite frankly it doesn't fall under any except smaller competitions that do "Open" where anything goes except 1a. It doesn't fall under 3a because you have to have the string connected to your finger. It doesn't fall under 5a because you are not allowed two yoyos. So you are right, it more then likely only falls under AP.
requesting alternative style database and "how to get started"s
I'd love to try out some of these styles. möbius is great fun. I wanna see what else is out there.
For Moebius, there is two databases I've made. check them out:https://www.facebook.com/pages/M%C3%B6bius-yoyoing/123950550979070
<-- Moebius-yoyoing, the fanpage on facebook.http://moebiusyoyoing.tumblr.com/
<-- Moebius-yoyoing, the tumblr blog.http://www.youtube.com/zamstrom
<-- My youtube channel that has the Moebius 101 tutoruals on there.