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Author Topic: how to convince my dad that yoyos are different?  (Read 632 times)
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« on: February 09, 2012, 10:52:03 PM »

Hey guys, ive been getting alot more yoyos latley, and my dad is wanting me to stop because he says that they all just do the same thing, and im trying to convince him that they are all very different, but he wont listen, any advice on how to convince him of this?
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« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2012, 10:55:30 PM »

Does your dad have any hobbies? For instance, my dad loves golf, so I just tell him,"Well, you have like what? 12 golf clubs?"
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« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2012, 11:09:58 PM »

haha, no he doesnt, he doesnt really have any hobbies, lol
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« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2012, 11:12:48 PM »

I gave up on my dad. I think since Im not a full fledged athlete like he was he sees me as a failure and Im just used to it so I dont worry about that anymore
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« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2012, 11:22:32 PM »

Hey guys, ive been getting alot more yoyos latley, and my dad is wanting me to stop because he says that they all just do the same thing, and im trying to convince him that they are all very different, but he wont listen, any advice on how to convince him of this?


Well, I'm a dad, and I got into yoyo kinda late(like, when I was 39, and I'm 40 now). Yoyos changed a LOT from 1978 and now! It's not surprising, as most things change. I wasn't expecting that much change.

At the core, he's mostly right. You throw them, then bring them back. It's what you CAN do between those two points...

Even I understood there was a difference between looping yoyos and string trick yoyos and it requires different yoyos.

My wife feels the same way. They all do the same thing. Well, she won't really throw or try, so she can't understand.

See if you can get your dad to do a few simple things. Chances are, once he starts playing with your yoyos, he's gonna either indulge so he can try more stuff out, or he's gonna start getting his own.
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« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2012, 11:45:19 PM »

Show him multiple styles of play and maybe some sub styles
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« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2012, 12:46:21 AM »

You're dad is mostly right. No matter what, you're just gonna do tricks with each yo-yo and learn with them. What you need to do is to convince him to respect your hobby. With each hobby comes certain technicalities and such. For example, ball players require special shoes. To a normal layman, all shoes are the same, but to them each shoe is different. Get your dad to learn about different technicalities in yo-yoing. Not just the products themselves, but also in styles and tricks. Your dad needs to learn more about what he's hating. That way, he can truly tell you to stop buying.

Besides, if you're buying to the point where he's telling you to stop, then maybe you should cut down for a while.
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« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2012, 12:51:52 AM »

Truthfully the only yoyos that are really different are loopers and offtrings.  You can do most other tricks on any modern 1a yoyo.  You could argue for different materials and shapes but they are all fundamentaly the same.
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« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2012, 01:02:58 AM »

If he's paying, and he has already bought quite a few yoyos, I'd say just play it cool and be hopeful around birthdays and gift giving holidays.

Now, if you're a responsible teen, with a job, and your own income, and you're saving some money, and being responsible in other aspects (Good grades, behavior, and help around the house) maybe you should have a "man to man" talk with your dad, and find out why he isn't okay with you supporting the economy with the cost of your hobby.
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« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2012, 01:41:16 AM »

Unless you're talking some 2A throws or a 4A throw (or another of the same for 3A), you're 1A moth will take you far.
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« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2012, 02:20:10 AM »

as its been shared - they really all do the same thing... the question would be why do you have so many? Are you a collector? If so, share that. If you have them because you're convinced you have to or you're convinced it will truly give you different results - I bought a proto star after seeing John Ando's promo video - thought about sending it back as broken, it just doesn't work like his Wink

As a father I have seen my compulsive nature in my kids - they've gone through their pokemon-gotta-catch'em-all phase (and more to come, I'm sure)... the question I have for them is "why? Why do you think you need these?" And quite frankly if their answer is anything beyond actual enjoyment - I'll slow them down. Because they don't "need" most of these things - they "want" them, and most wants change after you have them.

Have there been other things you've amassed in quantity before? Where are they now - perhaps your dad just sees it as another passing thing, that in the end will be left for the next big shiny....

I think another valid question (which was asked already) who's paying? If its his money, well you can see where that argument leads... if its your money, maybe he wants you to consider saving or investing in something other than a hobby.

Its really not about convincing him - its about proving why "it" makes sense (assuming "it" does), in turn earning the right or respect.

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Or perhaps something more encouraging;

"Honor your father and mother" (this is the first commandment with a promise). Ephesians 6:2


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« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2012, 02:41:00 AM »

Your dad is mostly right. No matter what, you're just gonna do tricks with each yo-yo and learn with them. What you need to do is to convince him to respect your hobby. With each hobby comes certain technicalities and such. For example, ball players require special shoes. To a normal layman, all shoes are the same, but to them each shoe is different. Get your dad to learn about different technicalities in yo-yoing. Not just the products themselves, but also in styles and tricks. Your dad needs to learn more about what he's hating. That way, he can truly tell you to stop buying.

Besides, if you're buying to the point where he's telling you to stop, then maybe you should cut down for a while.

this. As a dad and yoyo player myself. The reason for him wanting you to stop buying more throws might not be because they're "all the same" per se. Rather because he thinks that they become too important (to the point where you HAVE TO get that new one because it's somewhat "different") when, really, it's just a toy, let's face it. And they're not THAT different either.

If you have a nice collection of fairly recent throws, there's nothing that one new throw will do that all or most of the others can't.

Coming from someone who basically left everything for yoyoing, trust me, it's not THAT important, it's just a toy, just a hobby.

If you want to convince your dad to let you have new throws, maybe you have to show him that this hobby doesn't steer your focus away from what's important, work at school, help at home, when there are family times, leave your throw to the side and be a part of it. Realize that it's "just a toy", because this is the reality, the truth, no matter how important this toy is to your or my life, it's a toy nonetheless and it shouldn't, ultimately, have that much importance to the point where you end up arguing against your dad and where you HAVE TO get that new throw because the shape or bearing or whatever makes it somewhat "different". truth is: it doesn't.
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« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2012, 02:33:22 PM »

Instead of attempting to convince him to let you have more yoyos, maybe you could convince him to yoyo with you. It would be good to find a way to participate in one of your dad's interests as well. To often parents and kids fill life with things that separate them and frankly,that don't matter much.                      
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« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2012, 03:12:15 PM »

My dad was interested in how all of mine are different, so I pretty much went through all my yoyos and explained for about 20 minutes what was different. Unfortunately, it is true that in the end they really just all do the same thing, and there's no way to disprove that, but you can show him how they all feel different and behave differently to you.
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« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2012, 03:33:20 PM »

he says that they all just do the same thing

That is what my mom used to say to me all the time. She says,
"Why do you buy all these yoyos? I see you do the same tricks with them and they all look the same!"
LOL. She doesn't really say it anymore cause I don't yoyo that much anymore but when I do, I usually only have 1 yoyo at a time, instead of having a collection of 10 or more. She also tells me I should just buy the "best" yoyo and just not buy another yoyo ever again.
They don't yoyo, so they don't understand the difference of them, and most likely they will never will. They will probably just have to get used to the fact that it is your hobby, and as long as you, yourself are paying for most of the yoyos, there shouldn't be a big problem.
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