Terrapin X Bearing

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crazyoyow:
IMO, these are the best bearings ever.

ShaunC:
Good lord people, relax. It's called hyperbole. He wasn't trying to insult anyone or say that people were wrong, he was just trying to tell people how awesome he thought the bearing was. Some of you guys get way too upset and defensive about the silliest things.

As for the Terrapins being hype, they're really not just hype. Are they the end-all-be-all best bearing ever made with nothing coming close? No, they're not. But, the Terrapin IS a really high quality bearing that performs amazingly well in every yoyo I've put it in. It comes in steel or steel/ceramic, it comes in different sizes, and it comes in the "X" version, which is similar to a KonKave/Center-Trac type of bearing. It's not some crazy method of construction that makes it different, it's the chemical treatment John uses on the bearings that greatly reduces friction, therefore increasing spin time and performance. He sells them himself because he does the work himself and it's a small operation. You can buy them on eBay or directly through him either at contests/events or on YoYoNation (his user name is FJH123). I'm not sure if he's on this forum or not. He also sells the Terrapin Bearing Juce that you can use to lube your own bearings, though you have to occasionally reapply it if you use the Juce, but not with the treated bearings. I own several of the treated bearings and they're spectacular. I've also used the Juce to treat other bearings, and it's a really nice bearing lube, though it doesn't reduce the noise of your bearings by very much, compared to normal YYJ Thin Lube. John is also a super nice guy and very easy to deal with. I definitely think it's worth investing in the ceramic X bearing for at least one of your favorite throws. Heck, you can always pick up a C bearing and switch it out between several different throws. Plus, it never has to be cleaned or lubed. I've had one in my Pyro for about 5 months now and I've only had to blow it out with canned air one time. It runs like a champ.

icthus:
I've been yoyoing for a loooong time. I've tried the terrapin and I'm not impressed. Yes it is a good bearing. No it's not better than most other flat bearings. As far as ten ball bearings, They have more friction in them so they won't spin as long in a controlled spin test. That being said I am fairly sure that the world spin time record yoyo has an 8 ball bearing in it. NOT a terrapin either. :-)


For those that are getting overly excited, just give your opinion. "I think spec bearings are better" would be a better response than......

Quote from: Shisaki on October 19, 2010, 12:19:54 AM

Really? So the hundreds of people who never tried that bearing don't know what a good bearing is? I'm pretty sure I do, a good bearing is one that works. The main purpose of a bearing is to work, if they are grooved or slanted or whatever the difference isn't crucial. What if Jensen Kimmitt has never used that bearing? That mean he' doesn't know what a good bearing is? No, he just doesn't bother because the bearings he uses are just fine.

Ghost8982:
for me I like kk bearings. never tried the terrapin. but im more waiting for the end of october because there is a company that is comming out with the homopolar electromagnetic bearing. google it. I found it under the bearing section in yoyowiki.  ever tried to push two magnets together with both north poles or south poles. harder then heck isnt it. now imagine if you made a thin ring on the inside lip of the outer shell and thicker rings on the inner shell both opposing each other and then wrap it all up in stainless steel. Now you have a bearing that has sort of a cushion and floats litterally on air providing no friction and very very minimal slow down. put that in a yoyo. I dont think the yoyo record is going to last much longer after this month. cant wait. the company is not going to sell it just yet to regular people but only to companies that buy in bulk.  but what if.  and the company has not released how much the bearing is going to cost but promises it will be less then some of the high end bearings that cost $100 or more.  I dont care.  it sounds fun and interesting.  here is the website www.magnetal.se. check it out.

ShaunC:
Quote from: Icthus on October 20, 2010, 08:27:41 AM

I've been yoyoing for a loooong time. I've tried the terrapin and I'm not impressed. Yes it is a good bearing. No it's not better than most other flat bearings. As far as ten ball bearings, They have more friction in them so they won't spin as long in a controlled spin test. That being said I am fairly sure that the world spin time record yoyo has an 8 ball bearing in it. NOT a terrapin either. :-)


For those that are getting overly excited, just give your opinion. "I think spec bearings are better" would be a better response than......



I find fault in your logic here, Icthus. Just because a 10 ball bearing has more balls in it doesn't mean it has more friction. as the surface area of the balls is reduced, so is the friction. 10 balls does not necessarily mean more friction than 8 balls. this is just conjecture, but it would seem to me that if a 10 ball bearing had more friction, there would be no point in producing it, so logic dictates that it would be at least equal to the 8 ball. as for the world spin time record, that's kind of a moot point. terrapin's weren't around when the record was broken, and i'm not sure if it was ever tried with a 10 ball. world records don't really mean much. technology advances every day, so unless the record was attempted almost constantly, using every bit of technology available, it really doesn't prove anything. and i've compared the spin times of 8 balls, 10 balls and terrapins several times, under several different circumstances, and they're all pretty close to equal. occasionally one or the other would come out on top, but that's going to happen in real world applications. so i don't think it can really be said with finality that the 10 ball doesn't spin as long as the 8 ball. i think it's all a matter of preference. to me, the main appeal to the Terrapins is the non-cleaning non-lubing aspect of them, and the fact that they perform consistently and with solid spin times.

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